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A Tale of Two Screenshots

I remember when one of my sons was in his teens – he was utterly convinced that society was “smarter” because of our near unlimited access to information. As internet connectivity becomes more widespread and literally ANYONE can post content, I disagree.

In many ways, access to whatever passes for “information” these days may be making us dumber.

Why yes I DO recognize the irony of saying this when I am myself one of those people putting information on the internet every week.

Recently a LinkedIn pal shared a gem of a video produced by a well known job board. The video is VERY well produced, with smooth transitions from the beautiful actress reading a script (she did great BTW) to visuals explaining what was being said. Speaking of visuals, let’s take a look at THIS screenshot from the video:

Here we see various steps in the recruiting workflow. The voiceover states “the ATS comes between Candidates apply and Applicants are screened”.

Read that again.

The ATS comes between “CANDIDATES APPLY and APPLICANTS ARE SCREENED”.

Now you may be wondering what’s the problem! Isn’t that how it works? It’s what everyone complains about. It’s what job seekers have been told repeatedly. I mean, who do I think I am to come in with… wait…. THIS:

Sadly I’m NOT an actress nor do I have access to fancy production tools and editing. All I have is an iPhone and a whiteboard. Oh, and 25 years of hands on recruiting experience across multiple organizations including a few FAANG companies. I’ve lost track of how many ATSs I’ve logged into every day for the past two decades. Here is MY visual of what an ATS actually does. Notice we’re covering the same topics:

  • Job is created
  • Job is posted online
  • Candidates apply
  • Applicants are screened
  • Candidates are interviewed
  • Candidate is hired

You might be wondering “Ames, what’s the problem?” Simple – ALL of those things happen within the ATS. And then some.

The digital filing cabinet doesn’t “come between” 2 specific workflows. It CONTAINS those workflows. I’ve talked about this on LinkedIn already. I completely understand that job seekers care the MOST (as they should) about where THEY are in process, and the only thing they can actually control – the information they provide via the application/resume.

So why does it matter? Why spend an hour on a lovely Sunday grabbing the screenshots, writing the blog, and screaming about ATSs into the abyss?

Partially because I have an allergic reaction to misinformation. Mostly, because the nonsensical rhetoric around hiring and recruiting actually harms job seekers.

I dislike that. Quite a bit, as it turns out.

Friends, you can choose who to follow, listen to, believe, and take advice from. It’s absolutely NONE of my business how you structure your job search. The difference between me and a lot of people talking about ATSs (especially incorrectly) is they often have something to sell. To be completely fair, I work for a company that uses this particular job board, with some solid success! They’re great at their core business – why they’re so willing to invest in and run with this flat out WRONG information is beyond me – it makes them look… kinda dumb. Just sayin.

For me, when anyone (company or individual) doubles down on incorrect or harmful information, we’re past a single data point. We’re now spotting trends – whether it’s endlessly repeating one wrong concept or repeated violations of common sense. Those trends help me determine where and when to spend my emotional (and actual) currency. It’s certainly not going to be with people and companies who are willfully misleading job seekers.

Do with that information what you will – and for more on what ATSs ACTUALLY DO, check out the playlist HERE.

What Is An ATS?

There is so much confusion about ATSs. Every single day recruiters try to explain the inner workings, with varying degrees of success. As one of those, I’m so tired of repeating myself! Instead, I’m writing this handy little cheat sheet so I have something to sprinkle all over the internet like common sense confetti whenever this issue comes up.

ATS? It’s in the name.

ATS stands for Applicant Tracking System. It’s a System that Tracks Applicants. That’s it. That’s the acronym. Not “automated”, not “ATS system”, or any of the other wild definitions people come up with. Applicant. Tracking. System.

THE ATS?

Well, which one? Seriously there are over 200 companies who currently have some kind of ATS on the market. Some are highly customizable and targeted to large companies, like Taleo Enterprise Edition. Others are free for smaller start ups or sole proprietors, like Breezy HR. The specific ATS a company may use is based on lots of variables, including cost, number of users, and features. The way an ATS is CONFIGURED can also vary widely – I’ve personally used a few of the same systems at different companies and had to learn all over because the implementation was so different.

So What’s An ATS For Anyway?

Exactly what it sounds like! A system to track applicants. Seems simple enough, but many ATSs do that and more – before we get into details, let’s review the general life cycle of hiring:

Role Created –> Inbound Applicants/Sourced Candidates –> Interviews –> Offers Created/Extended/Accepted or Declined

I recently created a 5 video playlist that explains these steps in further detail – what many job seekers find most surprising is how much “OTHER” stuff we do in our ATSs, that is above and beyond reviewing resumes. Check it out HERE.


At each step of the process, the ATS is used to document everything. Here’s a non-exhaustive list of the actions recruiters might take any given day:

Open new requisitions. These are the job postings that are published on a company career page, and possibly other places too. Many companies integrate with LinkedIn, or Indeed, or other web scrapers that might re-share a job post. Opening new roles may be complex themselves – with multiple approvers, checks and balances for compliance, and other steps before it even makes it to the internet. All activity tied to that requisition is easily viewed/filtered for reporting purposes. With few exceptions, hiring doesn’t happen without a verified business need / approved headcount / open role (so much for the old hidden job market, huh?)

Review incoming applicants. This is the step that gets talked about the most. Interestingly, it’s the part I spend the least amount of time doing when I’m in the ATS. This IS an important step of course, but far from the ONLY purpose of the ATS. Reviewing applicants is usually highly manual, with recruiters quickly reviewing large number of resumes or applications at once against certain criteria (usually Basic Qualifications). Successful applicants are usually forwarded to a business reviewer (typically the Hiring Manager or a delegate) for a second look. SOME systems will utilize “knock out” questions – these are typically “yes/no” decision tree type questions, tied to basic qualifications. For example, an application question could be “are you eligible to work in the US without sponsorship?” If you answer NO, you will be automatically dispositioned from the position. Basically that means you’re now in “rejected” status. Fun fact, most ATSs (all I’ve used) have a status, and it’s “rejected”. You’re still attached to the requisition. You never LEAVE the requisition. You are there, forever, in “rejected” status.

Add sourced candidates. Sometimes this happens in a CRM that “talks” to the ATS. Some systems (especially for compliance purposes) require a prospect to apply. Recruiters can send that invite to apply directly from their CRM/ATS to help streamline the process of getting their candidate attached to the requisition for hiring manager review and future activity

The interview process. Recruiters request review. Hiring managers request an interview. Coordinators schedule interviews and create feedback links. ALL of this typically happens within the ATS. Some notes are automatic: “submitted to Joe Smith for resume review” Others are typed out: “called CANDIDATE to discuss interview prep materials and confirmed schedule. Also discussed comp expectations of $X, candidate anticipating competing offer by date”. These entries are typically time/date stamped which is very helpful when reviewing previous history for a candidate.

Offers. Offers are created, extended and recorded in the ATS. Negotiations, approvals, all the back and forth that happens during offers is typically done in this system. It creates not only the required paper trail, but also generates the official documents that can then be emailed or delivered via a dedicated candidate portal.

General Documentation / Search. Y’all. Every time I have a conversation with a prospective candidate I should be writing it down. I’m not always great at this, but the expectation / general rules around this is DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. We have a saying in recruiting – if it’s not in the ATS, it didn’t happen. Track. It. All. Smart recruiters will also START new searches in our database – previous candidates, silver medalists on similar roles, former referrals… ATSs are a literal goldmine of passive talent that at some point, were interested in your company. Why would you NOT search for and try to reengage those folks?

But What About…?

Knockout questions! Yes – SOME systems are enabled with a yes/no decision tree, as I mentioned above.

Ranking! Sure, some ATSs will apply a “match” score – typically a percentage. I have personally used ONE version of ONE ATS that had this ranking (Taleo) and it was awful. 100% matches were basically keyword stuffed nightmares and we regularly hired 20-40% matches because we would actually review the resumes to decide for ourselves. Absolute trash and I hate these. If there’s a good one out there, I haven’t used it.

3 am rejections! Too fast, random, or middle of the night updates are almost always a result of one of two things – knockout questions, OR a role that is no longer accepting applications. Ideally a role is REMOVED from the career site when it’s got an offer extended or even accepted. But systems fail, or recruiters forget to hit a button – things happen and while it sucks for the job seeker, it’s hardly “proof” of a bot. Some systems are set up to send a disposition email 12 hours after being rejected, so maybe the recruiter reviewed yours at 3 pm! OR, maybe they’re actually working at 3 am. In another time zone. Perhaps they’re simply a night owl – I’ve definitely pulled some weird hours during the only quiet time I have to get things done!

But my friend/career coach/resume writer/LinkedIn influencer said! Sure they did! And I bet they believe it. I don’t necessarily think anyone is INTENTIONALLY lying about how ATSs work to make a buck… well maybe a couple of people I won’t name here. But generally speaking, I think the folks spreading this misinformation actually believe it – which is kind of heart breaking when there’s so much actual data to the contrary. My best advice to any job seeker who is worried about finding “the truth”, is to go straight to the source. I talk a bit about questions you can ask in this LinkedIn post. Don’t even listen to ME – listen to the recruiters at the companies you want to work at! They know best.

Additional Resources

Many recruiters have talked about this topic until we’re blue in the face. Some of my fave links (including my own!) included here:

Marc Cenedella / Nate Smith, CEO of Lever – Secrets Of The ATS is an in-depth conversation between Marc (CEO of The Ladders) and Nate where they discuss some of the common fallacies around ATSs. Lever is a very popular and well-liked by recruiters system.

Dominic Joyce, Founder of CV Upgrade – Dominic has a great video that walks through step by step how a recruiter navigates their ATS platform. At 5 minutes long, it’s a quick yet thorough tour through a commonly used ATS. Check it out HERE

Kristen Fife, Senior Technical Recruiter – Kristen is a well respected and tenured recruiter in the Seattle market who’s been in the industry since we were accepting paper applications. Her article on the ATS, Keywords, and Knockout Questions is a deep dive into common processes in US companies. Find it HERE

Christine Assaf, Human Resources Consultant – Christine wrote one of the best pieces I’ve ever read on the “75% of resumes aren’t seen by a human” myth. Essentially, there is no actual PROOF that this is accurate – yet people share it constantly like we’ve actually seen this happen in the wild… Reader, we have not. Check out her AMAZING breakdown HERE

Yvonne Robinson-Jackson, Executive Career Coach – In this nearly hour long video, Yvonne does a DEEEEEP dive into the ATS. Check out this video for more insights into the backend of these various tools/processes, including some screenshots from Bullhorn, a common system. Find it HERE

Amy Miller, hey that’s me! 🙂 – honestly y’all I’m so tired of talking about this. That’s why I wrote this post, and am putting all my content in one place!! Starting with The Truth About The ATS Playlist – 11 videos where I break down different topics covering everything from applications to boolean searches.

There are lots of amazing professionals out there sharing their knowledge – I’ll update this post regularly with new links/content as I come across it.

Ok Fine. But Why Do You Care, Amy?

Y’all I wish I didn’t some days 😉 It is exhausting having this conversation over and over again – BUT – I started this blog and channel BECAUSE I want better for those who need support. I had to learn so many things about my career and job search the hard way. Now that I am in a position to share my expertise, I will shout it as long and loud as possible so other job seekers don’t struggle through the same uncertainties and frustration I did. I have helped thousands of job seekers through one on one coaching and more recently, scaling my YouTube channel and blog – this is the same advice I have given my adult children, who have successfully navigated their own early career challenges.

If you’re reading this, I want the same success for you. There are many things job seekers should spend time on when seeking their next role – worrying about the imaginary ATS bot isn’t one of them.

But wait – THERE’S MORE

Here’s the dirty little secret. I want y’all to have the cheat codes because ultimately it makes my job easier.

There. I said it.

If you understand how recruiting actually happens, you’ll create the resume / application content that makes it easy for me to move you through the process. If you follow my guidance on interview prep, your odds are significantly higher that you’ll get an offer. If you take my advice on negotiating and understand how compensation works, you’re more likely to accept my (really good) offer without a bunch of exhausting back and forth that actually starts pissing off the hiring managers (hint, they get mad at both of us).

I started blogging and eventually creating videos because I really DID (and do!) want to be the recruiter I needed when I was younger and didn’t know what the hell I was doing. I have to admit though… all these years later… it just makes damn good business sense.

Lying Liars and the Truth About Your Job Search

Y’ALL.

I am so fit to be tied right now.

My friends know I have this funny hobby of raging against bad ATS advice (lies) on social media. Today I was tagged in just such a post. I won’t link it here (and frankly, there are SO MANY to choose from) but this one hit me especially stupid because the poster claimed to have WORKED IN ATSs FOR 14 YEARS.

If that’s true, you know better.

I looked at the person’s background – some HR stuff, so yeah, maybe part of SELECTING an ATS, or asking for certain features. If this person is ACTUALLY MAKING THE CLAIM that the ATS does… well, let’s just look shall we? Here’s what the poster had to say –

You are applying through the ATS which is going to screen your resume “out”.

90% of jobseekers resumes are not ATS Friendly hence not getting interviews.

False. In other words, you’re lying.

Let’s break it down, shall we?

The ATS is going to “screen you out”
The ATS does NOTHING ZIP ZILCH NADA without a human telling it to. While some systems use “knock out” questions MOST recruiters (and believe me, I’ve asked HUNDREDS) still review resumes one by one. Search strings and filters can only go so far, and most ATSs are simply NOT that advanced.

90% of job seeker resumes are not “ATS friendly”

This is so utterly meaningless I don’t even know where to start. I personally see resumes as ATTACHMENTS. It’s worked this way in Taleo, both business and enterprise editions. I’ve seen it in iCIMS. I’ve also seen this in homegrown systems used by Microsoft, Google, and Amazon. “ATS friendly” is such a ridiculously stupid statement it cracks my brain.

The only thing that comes even REMOTELY CLOSE to explaining this, is the problem with parsing. When you upload your resume, the ATS “should” recognize certain words (like your name) and put them in the name field. This doesn’t always happen. If you have charts and pictures and colors, the ATS can be confused and ask you to reenter all your info. This has NOTHING to do with how a recruiter sees your resume. Again, it’s an ATTACHMENT. In all it’s colorful, charts and pictures glory. Now if those resumes are RECRUITER friendly is a whole other topic – the point being, the recruiter STILL SEES IT.

But Amy, why do you care?

Great question. I ask myself all the time why I bother. Thought leaders gotta think, I suppose. Think of ways to manipulate desperate job seekers with their made up statistics and scare tactics, it seems. The bottom line for me – I care too much about my industry to stay quiet. And I work too hard to bust recruiting myths to sit quietly when people say things that are verifiably not true. Ultimately, this doesn’t hurt ME – the next time I’m looking for a role, I know better to fall for this kind of nonsense. I live and breathe recruiting – but so many others DON’T.

I also reached out to the original poster, only to find my comment DELETED and I was BLOCKED. So much for transparency, eh? Makes you wonder what they’re afraid of. Truth, is my guess.

I’ve talked elsewhere about how recruiters view resumes. The MOST important thing a job seeker can do to improve their chances is to make it clear on the resume how you fit the role you’re applying to. That’s it.

No magic format. No secret template. No bots to beat.

If you’re a job seeker struggling with getting your resume noticed, start with my All About Resumes playlist. Most questions will hopefully be answered there, but between the blog and the channel, I try to provide actual, real world guidance that you can use in your job search IMMEDIATELY – no strings attached. I also wrote a post breaking down your job search into 5 easy steps – check that out HERE. And don’t forget The Truth About The ATS playlist too.

Good luck out there, and don’t let the bastards get you down.